In this episode of The Sound of Economics, Rebecca Christie sits down with Bruegel Senior fellow Zsolt Darvas and Jennifer D. Sciubba, President and CEO of the Population Reference Bureau from Washington DC. Together, they explore the findings of Darvas’ recent paper on the effects of demographic changes on public debt sustainability, which was presented at the informal Meeting of Economic and Financial Affairs Ministers on 14 September 2024. Darvas pointed out that countries will have to devote a much larger share of their budget for paying for pensions and health care and elderly care, and fiscal adjustments might not be enough to cover these. Sciubba emphasizes the urgency for policymakers to acknowledge the change in demographics and work toward actionable solutions.